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| hiper2009 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 11:59:15
Hi , Will a HabiStat Heat Mat
150mm x 280mm
6" x 11"
7 watt
Be ok for a hatchling Royal ? or do i need HabiStat Heat Mat
430mm x 280mm
17" x 11"
20 watt.
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Should i go for this Thermostat http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Temperature-Thermostat-Reptile-Snake-Lizard-Vivarium_W0QQitemZ370122746518QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item562d08ea96
Or this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Microclimate-Ministat-Reptile-Thermostat-300W_W0QQitemZ260530300534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item3ca8d0e676 With this one i already have one that i use for the Cornsnakes so i know these ones work great but not sure on the first one ?  |
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| Blackecho |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 20:01:31
Yes, as Daz says, an MC dimmer is fine. |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 19:56:12
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
Yes it has a dial just like any other stat. Any PP or MC dimmer stat will run your mat as they have no minimum load, a habistat dimmer stat however has a minimum load of 40w.
How about this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MICROCLIMATE-B1-DIMMING-DIMMER-Reptile-THERMOSTAT_W0QQitemZ290371943038QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects?hash=item439b843a7e |
| Blackecho |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 19:00:38
As above, yes, PPs are great for heatmats and ceramics. |
| dazb |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 18:59:11
Yes it has a dial just like any other stat. Any PP or MC dimmer stat will run your mat as they have no minimum load, a habistat dimmer stat however has a minimum load of 40w. |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 18:12:21
If i bought a pp or dimming stat would it be ok to use with heatmatt until the royal is ready to move on to ceramic bulb   |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 12:45:08
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
I'm no expert ash, but I think the whole point of a dimming stat is that it regulates the temp by altering either the power or wattage a tiny bit, it will get slightly too hot so it eases off a bit, and when it is slightly too cold it will give more power. Or something like that, it is late and my brain isnt working lol.
Oh right that makes sence
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
It wont stay on full power for long cos it would get the viv up to temperature pretty quick then switch off as its reaches temperature.
SB is right, A dimmer or PP stat only runs at full power when it is initially turned on, it then runs at a reduced rate to maintain the temperature.
Im not saying that to use a on/off stat is wrong and it wouldnt work, all im saying it is recommended for a more accurate, stable temperature and to help increase lifespan of your ceramic it is advised to use a dimmer or PP stat with a ceramic.
So on a Dimmer or PP Stat , Does it have a dial thing where you choose to set what temp you need it at ? |
| dazb |
Posted - 16/01/2010 : 10:32:11
It wont stay on full power for long cos it would get the viv up to temperature pretty quick then switch off as its reaches temperature.
SB is right, A dimmer or PP stat only runs at full power when it is initially turned on, it then runs at a reduced rate to maintain the temperature.
Im not saying that to use a on/off stat is wrong and it wouldnt work, all im saying it is recommended for a more accurate, stable temperature and to help increase lifespan of your ceramic it is advised to use a dimmer or PP stat with a ceramic. |
| SexyBear77 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 23:43:35
I'm no expert ash, but I think the whole point of a dimming stat is that it regulates the temp by altering either the power or wattage a tiny bit, it will get slightly too hot so it eases off a bit, and when it is slightly too cold it will give more power. Or something like that, it is late and my brain isnt working lol. |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 22:22:48
quote:
Originally posted by dazb
It could 'pop' it due to it being on at full power then off...on at full power then off. Rapid heating and cooling.
You can get a PP/dimming stat for about £30.
I dont get it so if it stays on 24/7 then wont it go over 34*C ??? how will it maintain a constant same temp ?? |
| bikesfred54 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 20:52:52
i know bulbs can blow with on off stats.but i have been running my ceramic with the the same stat for around a year with no problems. it also runs the temps between 86-88f so i dont think there is going to be a problem between heating up or cooling down.the only thing i will say is all my other vivs is running with habistat dimmers or pulse stats.i us this stat with the set up i bought as a complete set up and that was how it was being used befor i got it. |
| Gingerpony |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 20:45:33
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef
no you cant use a mat stat with a ceramic oh im loving this sticky at the mo http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=213
I think your wrong as with one of my big corns i some times during cold winter nights i turn his heatmatt off and turn on the ceramic heatbulb on which is connected to the Microclimate Ministat Thermostat 300W and it works fine ....
but with any bulb constantly switching on...switching off...switching on...switching off...switching on...switching off...switching on...switching off... it won't last for long!!! |
| dazb |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 19:29:37
It could 'pop' it due to it being on at full power then off...on at full power then off. Rapid heating and cooling.
You can get a PP/dimming stat for about £30.
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| hiper2009 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 19:22:56
Oh right would it pop the ceramic , Ive had a ceramic bulb for 6months and i use it some times for one of the corns as the heatmatt wont get to the right temp on cold nights and i have had no problems as of yet 
How much is it for the PP and dimming stats ? |
| dazb |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 19:20:40
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef
no you cant use a mat stat with a ceramic oh im loving this sticky at the mo http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=213
I think your wrong as with one of my big corns i some times during cold winter nights i turn his heatmatt off and turn on the ceramic heatbulb on which is connected to the Microclimate Ministat Thermostat 300W and it works fine ....
PP and dimming stats are the most suitable for use with ceramics as they supply a more constant reduced supply of energy. If you use a on/off stat with a ceramic it could dramatically reduce the life span of the ceramic and provide a unstable temp gradient, especially if the ceramic is a high wattage one. |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 19:02:05
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef
no you cant use a mat stat with a ceramic oh im loving this sticky at the mo http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=213
I think your wrong as with one of my big corns i some times during cold winter nights i turn his heatmatt off and turn on the ceramic heatbulb on which is connected to the Microclimate Ministat Thermostat 300W and it works fine ....
quote:
Originally posted by bikesfred54
i would go for the habistat tempeature thermostate also i am useing one of mine on a ceramic and it works fine.when i first set up a 11x6 heat mat under a 9ltr rub i to had troubles with the temps so i went for a 11x11 heat mat as our house can get very cold in the winter and i found it kept the temps up a lot better.
Thanks i have just orderd a 11X17 its 20watt |
| bikesfred54 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 18:39:42
i would go for the habistat tempeature thermostate also i am useing one of mine on a ceramic and it works fine.when i first set up a 11x6 heat mat under a 9ltr rub i to had troubles with the temps so i went for a 11x11 heat mat as our house can get very cold in the winter and i found it kept the temps up a lot better. |
| sexychef |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 15:50:37
no you cant use a mat stat with a ceramic oh im loving this sticky at the mo http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=213 |
| HannahB |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 14:29:52
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009
HabiStat Heat Mat
150mm x 280mm
6" x 11"
7 watt
Thats under a ft long and ft wide right so it better if i get the other size ?
6inches = half a foot,
11inches = just shy of one foot..
so it would cover all of one side and then about a third across... |
| reptilekeeper1992 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 13:56:45
although heatmats seem to disagree with me most of the time, they never manage to get to the temperature i want them to, even following everyones instructions to the letter!
Therefore a lightbulb and thermostat is perfect for me. |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 13:50:53
quote:
Originally posted by reptilekeeper1992
i had the 20 watt one, and that was in a 3ft vivarium and it covered 1/2 of the vivarium
Yep i have 2 of the 20watt ones and i use them for the cornsnakes. |
