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| Kelfezond |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:00:25
Hello everyone!
It's been a few months since I've got Valhalla and I'm happy with the progress she's made, everything is going well and I'm seriously considering buying a second royal, preferably a morph this time.
However I have literally no space left in my room and as everyone else in the house dislikes snakes I have no chance of getting another viv in another room.
My choice comes down to having two royals in the same viv, I can increase the viv size if needed but I'll never fit in a second.
The shop I bought Valhalla from house a few royals together and I had a lengthy chat with the owner about housing two together the other day, he said they've never had any problem with keeping two royals together in the years and hundreds of snakes they've had, nor does he know anyone who has had any problems with it, although he's heard a few horror stories.
I've read the sticky on this forum posted by (I think it was matty, forgive me if it wasn't) and the replies that follow it which has scared me a little as the last thing I want is to put either snake in danger or in an environment they would dislike.
So just a few questions would really put my mind at rest
1. Does anyone here house two royals in the same viv?
2. If so, anything bad ever happened?
3. I know the weight and size of the snakes should be similar to avoid any problems, however is there any risk to housing snakes of the same gender. I would ideally want another female to be sure I wouldn't end up with any eggs.
And other advice would be great, I would really love getting a second royal and this is the only possible way. |
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| Kelfezond |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 00:21:42
Christ just read over this thread it's only half a year ago and I state that 1: I don't have any room for a second royal (Now has a 7ft boa and 4 more royals) and state that I want a female so I don't get any eggs (Now has 2 sets of pairs to breed when they reach maturity)
Things certainly change quickly o.o |
| n/a |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 15:19:06
That's good to hear - glad she's calming down - that's great. |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 01:06:20
On the subject of Valhalla, this is the first time I've seen her come out her hide.
She is really beautiful when she isn't being a hermit in that hide of hers.
She sat under her light bulb in the red light of her viv on top of her hide, her head sat on the fattest part of her coil- was really beautiful :D
Must mean she's happy and healthy I guess since she's actually coming out her hide now. |
| n/a |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 22:48:31
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Diablo's tiny anyway and Valhalla is a fatty I don't know if I'd ever feel comfortable putting him in her viv haha, I certainly wouldn't want to be in his scales for the experience anyway, courting a fat moody bitch doesn't sound too fun!
Poor old Valhalla - she's just a moody teen with puppyfat - give her a year or two and let her meet Diablo when he's a handsome macho young dude, and they'll be telling each other, 'get yer coat!'  |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 21:11:46
Diablo's tiny anyway and Valhalla is a fatty I don't know if I'd ever feel comfortable putting him in her viv haha, I certainly wouldn't want to be in his scales for the experience anyway, courting a fat moody bitch doesn't sound too fun! |
| n/a |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 21:08:14
I've never bred snakes so not sure - but given Valhalla's and Diablo's ages, they're not ready for breeding yet - they'll just have to subscribe to True Love Waits ... aaaaaahhhh!!!! |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 21:02:01
Valhalla is bitchy at the moment, and very lazy. But I love her still :) She just needs some time I guess. No sure if she's classed as Adult yet or not, she's about 8-9 months old I think. I know she was born '09 but not sure what month, judging by averages from BE's graph it came to about 9 months.
Out of curiosity, what kind of space do you need for a breeding project?
If I don't have enough room I might have to Hi-jack the spare room. |
| reptiledanny |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 16:43:13
thats what i did, i loved pieds, but new how expensive they were, and thought it would be more fun, an expierience and more loving to breed my own pied from my het pied pair lol |
| n/a |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 15:42:50
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Oh Never heard any of them :P feel silly now.
No, it's not you - it's me that's old ... It's the generation gap - sorry!
How's Valhalla, by the way? Sorry, off-topic, but she's adult, isn't she, and isn't it getting towards the breeding season? Are females edgier at this time? Could that account for her jumpiness? Hope she's going on ok anyway. |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 11:45:33
Oh Never heard any of them :P feel silly now. |
| n/a |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 11:24:15
Nice long-term project though, might even make you a bit of dosh! No I sort of meant it as a silly joke about that poem, you know, the Pied Python of Hamelin, where he comes to town and mops up the plague of rats ... There's also that Gilbert and Sullivan operetta about the Cornish snakes, isn't there? The Pythons of Penzance?
Sorry ... my jokes get worse!
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| Kelfezond |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 11:06:45
Would probably just keep one and sell the rest. Always wanted a pied but they're a little on the pricey side so figured it'd be more fun and cheaper to breed one :D
Just take a long time. |
| n/a |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 22:55:45
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Hahahaa that made me laugh, Maybe.
Need to find him another het pied or maybe a full pied female to get some little pied children :D
LOL, then you'll have a lot of pied pythons clearing you out of rats! |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 20:58:58
Hahahaa that made me laugh, Maybe.
Need to find him another het pied or maybe a full pied female to get some little pied children :D |
| anatess |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 18:44:46
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Both snakes are doing great, in fact Diablo has settled into his rub a lot quicker than Valhalla took for her viv.
In fact he is out and about exploring every single night I come in from work, it's a nice welcome change from Valhalla's moody sleeping sessions hehe.
He went berserk when I was feeding Valhalla today, obviously smelt the mouse he was patrolling up and down his rub and nudging the air holes.
That is very nice to hear! Congratulations!
Now it's time to cruise the for sale ads for another female... coz, you know, a snake named Diablo needs a harem. |
| Kelfezond |
Posted - 26/10/2010 : 21:32:02
Both snakes are doing great, in fact Diablo has settled into his rub a lot quicker than Valhalla took for her viv.
In fact he is out and about exploring every single night I come in from work, it's a nice welcome change from Valhalla's moody sleeping sessions hehe.
He went berserk when I was feeding Valhalla today, obviously smelt the mouse he was patrolling up and down his rub and nudging the air holes. |
| bonez007 |
Posted - 26/10/2010 : 21:06:30
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Originally posted by anatess
If you really want 2 snakes, I suggest getting rid of the viv and putting them on a rack instead of putting them together on one viv. You can stack 2 snakes very comfortably for the size of a viv.
If you can't do that, I say wait until you get a bigger place before getting another royal.
The thing with cohabiting is that, it's great when nothing goes wrong. It's a disaster if something does go wrong. So, basically, the whole time you're doing it, you're hoping nothing goes wrong...
It's like the dog. I really wanted a doberman pinscher. It's my favorite dog. But, my yard is very small and I'm not a runner. So, my doberman will have to live in "apartment-like" conditions with only a little exercise. He could very well thrive just fine in that small space. But, it definitely not the best situation for the natural requirements of a doberman pinscher. So, I got me a bichon frise instead. It would be the same for the snakes.
Me, personally, I took on the responsibility of being "god" to these snakes. They're completely dependent on me, so I will have to do everything in my power to give them the best situation. Royals are solitary snakes. It is against their nature to co-habit. So, I try to let them be solitary. And that's not even taking into consideration that if one gets sick - both will have to go to the vet - that's double vet bills all around.
Just my 2 cents.
totally agree make a stack if ya want to keep another, you will easy make a stack the same size as ya viv or as a rule they dont need the height in a viv so lower your viv height and add ontop where ya saved room....
must be a way of getting round keeping two together if not wait untill you have the room
nic |
| n/a |
Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:35:16
LOL - that's the one!
Typical teenage male - only one thing on his mind! |
| anatess |
Posted - 26/10/2010 : 15:44:12
Is this the picture you are talking about at Markus' site?
LOL... yeah, that's a boytoy alright. :D
And some porn from the same site:
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| n/a |
Posted - 26/10/2010 : 13:09:06
LOL - bless them.
As usual, I'm useless at posting links, but if you google Markus Jayne ball python breeding, you will find a really entertaining site, with loads of photos, including one of two snakes curled up after mating ... at first it looks like one big female, but snuggled in the middle is ... her toyboy! (A little young IMO, but great pic!) |
