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scott
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  20:48:15  Show Profile
hi all.
ive just brought my first royal and im after some advice.
i found a poo in his viv the other day so i cleared it out but noticed quite a few green critters crawlin all over it. is possable that he has some sort of internal parasite or could the little buggers of come from the half a log that i brought from the pet store. im new to keepin reptiles so any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks.

lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2597 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:03:12  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
Hi scott and welcome,sorry but i cant help you with the critters but someone will be along soon to help you.It dont sound too good though.

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:09:34  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
It could be either without a proper diagnosis unfortunately, I would suggest cleaning out the whole viv and baking the log in an oven for a couple of hours to kill anything off.

Also, until you are sure, use kitchen towel for substrate, easy to see anything and also not a source of anything nasty.

Get a fecal sample to a Reptile vet asap.

Good luck.



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scott
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:12:19  Show Profile
thanks for the quick response, Im awaiting the next poo to take to the vet as we speak.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:26:32  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
If you have not saved the last one some Royals can go weeks between poos so I would suggest taking the snake.



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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:32:00  Show Profile
i agree with BE. my royals can go upto 6 weeks between poops so i would go seek advice sooner.

it my just be parasites off of the wood but you cant be too careful.



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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  21:51:08  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Most of the books / websites that I've read about Royal parasites have said that the internal parasites are Protazoans. These are microscopic, single-celled organisms that can't be seen clearly with the naked eye. I would suggest that they are either from the wood, substrate or the external surface of your royal.

I would still take it to the vets to be on the safe side though.

Keep us posted

Edit: How big compared to a pin head were the little buggers?


Edited by - Paulusworm on 02/12/2008 21:53:00
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2008 :  22:00:00  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Paul's our Biology expert so hopefully he's right and giving the viv a good clean and baking the log and any substrate will do it, but I'd still get it checked if I were you.



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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2008 :  23:00:17  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
'green critters crawling all over' doesn't sound like internal parasites to me............. would generally have to have a huge parasite burden for it to be passing lots of wrigglies with faeces. you can treat for worms with Panacur 2.5% (available from vets, GOOD shops and online) but i'll have to check on the dosage, can't remember off the top of my head

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lee2308
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2008 :  23:32:02  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
If they look like this then you've got real problems.

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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  08:03:57  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
... or this?




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vicki
Yearling

United Kingdom
151 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  12:03:20  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address
lee and paul bein as helpful as ever i see! lol! hope all is ok with ya snake scott keep us posted!

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/12/2008 :  19:39:25  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
lmao Paul and Lee


Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2597 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  22:31:50  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
All jokes aside,we all hope it turns out to be a few bugs off the wood,which i think it is more than likley to be.Kee us updated scott.

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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  23:13:11  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Were they smaller than a pin head?

Were they like little spiders?

Did they walk (i.e. in a straight-ish line) or were they wriggling around randomly?

If you can give me a rough description I may be able to put your mind at rest.

p.s. What kind of wood is it (pine, spruce, etc)?

Where did you get the wood from?


Edited by - Paulusworm on 03/12/2008 23:27:39
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scott
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2008 :  21:46:07  Show Profile
hi all.
thanks for all the advice i thought the internet was only any good for playin poker i didnt relise it would be this handy.
the little buggers were about the same size as a full stop they wernt wriggling around they was walking. not really sure what kind of wood it is but its been baked and ive layed down some kitchen towl as a substrate no sign of the little buggers yet. i will be takein him to the vet over the weekend just to be on the safe side. he seems fairly happy in himself and has just taken a feed which i hope is a good sign. i found another poo this eve in his viv i gave it the once over but no sign of em fingers crossed.

where do you all get your flashy banners from?

Edited by - scott on 04/12/2008 21:47:21
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2008 :  22:00:13  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Hi Scott. They sound like Spider Mites. The reason for asking about the type of wood is that there is one species of spider mite that likes conifers. These particular mites come in red, creamy with green dots and plain green. Sounds like them to me. Mites are like the Royal Marines of the arthropod world and are pretty hard to kill. Do you have any indoor plants in the house? If you have, you'll probably find they've migrated there.

Good luck at the vets.

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  22:18:40  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
www.mybannermaker.com



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scott
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2008 :  22:21:07  Show Profile
thanks paul ill let u know how it goes. how many snakes u got?
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2008 :  22:39:21  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Only the two. I think my wife will divorce me if I get any more.

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baldyman666
Hatchling

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2008 :  14:52:46  Show Profile
hi scott.. iliked the banners too and just went to where it said at the bottom of each of the banners "make your own banner at Mybannermaker.com"

its realy easy and good fun !

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