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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17/11/2012 : 11:11:49
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| http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/19555550 |
1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
0.1.0 Platinum Tiger Reticulated python |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2012 : 12:49:10
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| Interesting indeed. |
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1393 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2012 : 16:50:45
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| Better keep checking your vivs for unexpected babies then. |
Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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Redd
Yearling
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2012 : 17:15:05
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Strange huh?
What does "viable" mean? |
Royal - Normal: Redd
Royal - Mojave: Biscuit
Royal - Piebald: Cornflake |
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
897 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2012 : 19:20:01
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| Think it means the eggs are fertile |
0.1.0 snow corn Ruby 1.0.0 ghost corn-Oreo
1.0.0 bearded dragon- kato
0.1.0 bearded dragon- keita
1.0.0 cali king-Taz
0.1.0 royal-Clio
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal- Moose
0.1.0 hognose jinxx |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2012 : 21:00:39
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| My understanding of 'viable' was males born capable of surviving and reproducing themselves. Because they lack any genes from a male. Also all offspring will effectively be inbred, which is never great. But I find the ability to switch between sexual and Asexual reproduction in the lack of presence of a male amazing! |
1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
0.1.0 Platinum Tiger Reticulated python |
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2012 : 10:09:11
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Forgive me if I'm being thick here, but all females (lets say we're talking about Reptiles here just so things aren't confused) are born from a male and a female (traditionally). Right? So if so, does that not mean that what the females who are producing offspring without a male are doing is using 'their own' genes (female) with that of their father (male)?'Cause she's going to have male genes in her just as a male will have female genes in him.
Does this not mean that they're capable of seperating out these two 'sets' of genes and therefore creating babies who, in a way, do still have male and female genes within them? And therefore will go on to be able to reproduce in the future.
I just can't see the point in being able to produce asexual offspring if they aren't able to then go off and breed themselves. To carry on the species. 'Cause I'm assuming that this adaptation has came about to get around the problem of not having access to males for whatever reason.
It's happened with Liazards, and is actually happening right now in some parts of the world. And what I don't see in the artical is that these Lizards ( I forget what they are, saw it on a documentary) have been seen to go on be able to breed with eachother from a mother that produced them with no male present. So it is known to be able to happen. So surly it's the same with any Animal capable if this feat?
Sorry about that, just a thought I suppose... |
Just me and my zoo. |
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Robert
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
957 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2012 : 13:31:13
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| Some reptiles like some insects are capable of producing viable eggs without a male, this is called parthonogenesis. In the insect world they usually produce all females this way and yes they carry an identical copy of the mothers genes so they are like clones. These animals will mate with a male if there is one around and then the eggs they produce will have a mix of the male and female genes. It's a way of keeping the species going in the absence of local males but it's not a good long term policy as any disease will wipe out the whole population which is why sexual reproduction is preferred as it allows for a wider gene pool and consequently better survival in the longer term. |
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Interesting article
