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mjpeters
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
18 Posts

Posted - 28/05/2013 :  23:35:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First,Bugarit and Bugarum




Sooo we learn these Should NOT have been sold before they were feeding,settled in-and we learned a few handy things to get them to eat(mush up the rat pups head ew).I know they are 'only normals'but they seem pretty to me-I like the white bits creeping up the sides.
Then,there was Toby-localy bred last year,strike feeding on unfeasebly big ratlings


and Cleo-bred by Scott Wilkinson last year,overnight drop feeding on even bigger ratties


and thats IT!
I understand that Cleo can NEVER be bred from (sluggies and other horrors)and Toby (spider?)is a morph that can be 'wobbly'-Well we think they are lovely little puddings-hope you like them.

herriotfan
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
812 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  09:02:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're gorgeous.
My little spider only gets head wobble when he's excited about food. It's not all the time and is hardly noticeable. It doesn't bother him and he's a lovely boy. I think people worry too much at times.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Fudge, Sox, Raven & Titch)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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coxcats
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
584 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  09:39:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why cant you breed from Cleo? Im new to this breeding lark and want to have a go when our pastel Ria is big enough.

Royals - Sas, Boris & Ria
Boas - 1 called Titch until we can think of a name for her!
Cats - Felix, Becky, Max & Willow
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mjpeters
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
18 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  14:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coxcats

Why cant you breed from Cleo? Im new to this breeding lark and want to have a go when our pastel Ria is big enough.


Well maybe you folks can tell me!I was led to believe that there has yet to be any babies from a female Desert morph.Sometimes they die because of retained eggs,or lay infertile eggs.We love her as a pet only-most of our other snakes are rescues,and Cleo came to us very resonable price because she's not for breeding.
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coxcats
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
584 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  17:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive just googled it and there does seem to be a breeding problem with them :( Oh well, she is super cute anyway!

Royals - Sas, Boris & Ria
Boas - 1 called Titch until we can think of a name for her!
Cats - Felix, Becky, Max & Willow
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  17:49:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice Royals good choice on names

Royals owned "lots"

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mjpeters
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
18 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  18:13:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coxcats

Ive just googled it and there does seem to be a breeding problem with them :( Oh well, she is super cute anyway!


I know-its a sadness I find it difficult to understand why they(the males)form part of breeding program for some people,as all the female offspring will be a dead end
I guess Bugarit and Bugarum are more of a sadness they were imported captive farmed-(never trust other 'arf to buy fuzzy's when baby snakes are about!)They had never fed and shouldn't have been sold so soon.Real big time hassle to get them going Thats why they are called Bugar(it)and Bugar(um)
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  19:36:12  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice collection you have there

Its such a shame about the desert females, Its a spectacular looking morph that makes amazing combos.

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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IncurableFlirt
Yearling

USA
319 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  20:03:47  Show Profile  Send IncurableFlirt an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Awww, they're all so adorable. I love that Desert female, she's stunning. It is true about the breeding issues, though. Definitely don't want to breed her, as it could potentially lead to her death. For some reason the females either slug out or die in the process of egg production. Males are the only ones able to pass on the gene effectively to create the combos. :) I love the names you picked out for them all, too, though I had to laugh at Bugarit and Bugarum. Adorable!

Jenn.
11.8 Ball pythons
1.0 BCI boa
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow boa
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  22:40:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't worry too much about their tough beginnings, they live a very long time and I'm sure you'll be spoiling them for now on. Tough break about the female breeding issues, but she makes a cracking pet. They are both adorable.


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JoeJ
Hatchling

United Kingdom
51 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2013 :  23:22:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
love them normals.

like J & E exotics on Facebook :)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/JE-exotics/856205891059750
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1393 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2013 :  00:46:37  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Lovely looking normals, nice head on your spider and gorgeous desert.


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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mjpeters
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
18 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2013 :  23:34:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aww thanks guys,they're all feeling the love right now esp.Little Bugarit and Bugarum
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2013 :  23:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bugathat, Lol

Cleo is the prettiest pet in the hobby, fact

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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