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JanieW
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Posted - 13/08/2013 :  21:23:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know the champagne is an aggressive gene in that it dominates over most others.

I do like some of the combos bred from it and it a stunning animal in its own right, but what do you think of them?



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
FŽanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa

carlb1981
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1527 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2013 :  21:42:29  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im not a big fan of most the morphs as like you say it takes over.... but i seen this on bhb new video and i love it
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/champagne-enchi/

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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reptiledanny
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United Kingdom
2106 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2013 :  21:51:13  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I love the champagne gene, but I like the reduced patterness of it. it isn't the best combo maker, but a nice pastel champagne, or butter champagne is very nice. enchi champagne is just mind blowing, adds the pattern back in!!!


1.2 royal pythons 0.1 hog island boa 1.0 corn snake
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JanieW
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2279 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2013 :  23:01:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So if you bred a champagne to an enchi..then on to pastel etc maybe the pattern would remain..its a morph that hasn't been worked like most others.

Cheers Carl i'll have a look at that :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
FŽanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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carlb1981
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Posted - 14/08/2013 :  07:12:42  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It goes a bit dirty looking
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel-enchi-champagne/

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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reptiledanny
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United Kingdom
2106 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2013 :  10:18:50  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the enchi only adds back a certain amount of pattern, not loads and loads.
the champagne was a gene that was very underated. and wasn't worked with much, but within the past year it has picked up again, and loads of people are working with it again now, so expect to see a lot of hatchlings available this season


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JanieW
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Posted - 14/08/2013 :  10:27:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Carl..aye Danny I was considering adding a Champagne cos apart from spending 1000's it offers plenty of scope to produce firsts although as you say it has been picked up again.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
FŽanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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carlb1981
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1527 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2013 :  13:17:17  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Champin is nice mind an all gold snake

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2013 :  13:19:13  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/champagne-pinstripe/

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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reptiledanny
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United Kingdom
2106 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2013 :  15:29:29  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanieW

Thanks Carl..aye Danny I was considering adding a Champagne cos apart from spending 1000's it offers plenty of scope to produce firsts although as you say it has been picked up again.



you wont be spending 1000's on a champagne this season trust me, they have come down in price a lot, males from 500-700, females from 700
there are a few combos that haven't been done with the champagne yes, but I bet they will be discovered in the next season or two


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JanieW
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United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2013 :  15:36:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need to develop some nice combo gene males to breed back to our Sterling Hypo so I guess our signature line will be Hypo at least for now.
Thanks Carl, I do like that :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
FŽanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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carlb1981
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/08/2013 :  23:35:51  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have a watch through this he goes through some champagne combos after the big snakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwWsGsX6T0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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PythonManDan
Yearling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2013 :  11:20:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im gonna be after a Champagne within the next year hopefully. With the aim of producing Albino Champagnes, really do like them, especially the 'bubbles' you get with the morph pattern.


4.0.0 Normal, Pastel, Champagne & Albino Super Pastel Royal Pythons
0.3.0 Pastel, Spider & Albino Spider Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Irian Jaya Carpet Python
0.1.0 Diamond Jungle Jaguar Carpet Python
1.0.0 Diamond Python
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