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hiper2009
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  00:15:29  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey I have just put few pics of my setup that awaits my new het pied just wan't to check if i have it setup correctly.

I'm using a 13L RUB with few air holes in , kitchen roll substrate , water dish , two small hides , couple of loo rolls and a branch with fake foliage , do i need to add anything eles to this ?

I am using a heatmat which is stated up to a Microclimate 600w dimmer stat , with a digital thermometer/hygromemter dual probe to messure my temps.





I have sorted the temp issue I had.

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

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hiper2009
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  13:26:56  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Forgot to add should I add a piece of rock in that RUB as a shedding aid ? And also what should the humidity be in there it's currentyly messuring in at 52%.

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1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

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nok1888
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  13:32:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good m8 and humidity is fine at 52%

0.1.0 Royal Normal - Orlina Bodhi Lobsang
1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
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hiper2009
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  13:50:27  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

Looks good m8 and humidity is fine at 52%



Thank you , Do I need to add a moss hide or anything like that ?

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1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

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nok1888
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:23:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No thats usually for problem sheders you could put a wee bit moss in to raise humidity for when she sheds but she should be fine at the humidity you have. Orlina sheds in 1 piece at 50% humidity but i know some snakes have a problem. What i do is if i see signs of shedding, dry nose usually with Orlina, i give her a 10-15 minute bath and that seems to do the trick

0.1.0 Royal Normal - Orlina Bodhi Lobsang
1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
Strange creature, unknown species, wife likes to call it "teenage daughter"



Edited by - nok1888 on 17/03/2011 14:24:10
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hiper2009
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:29:03  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

No thats usually for problem sheders you could put a wee bit moss in to raise humidity for when she sheds but she should be fine at the humidity you have. Orlina sheds in 1 piece at 50% humidity but i know some snakes have a problem. What i do is if i see signs of shedding, dry nose usually with Orlina, i give her a 10-15 minute bath and that seems to do the trick



Oh right thanks for that but if in shed what do I raise the humidity % to ? Also from looking at my setup would you say I should put a piece of rock in there or just leave it how it is ?

Sorry for all the questions just want to learn as much as I can for when my royal comes home next week .

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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nok1888
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:37:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Raise humidity to about 60% for the shed but like i say mine does fine at 50 but 60% seems to be the advised. You can put a rock in to help but make sure its cleaned well. Im sure its 10% bleach solution for an hour then well rinsed and dried but im not too keen using bleach in case i dont clean it right. I put in a half log i have but she usually does it in her hide. It could be a good idea in yours as everything seems to be smooth

Dont worry about all the questions i was a lot worse...still am lol

0.1.0 Royal Normal - Orlina Bodhi Lobsang
1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:41:39  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

Raise humidity to about 60% for the shed but like i say mine does fine at 50 but 60% seems to be the advised. You can put a rock in to help but make sure its cleaned well. Im sure its 10% bleach solution for an hour then well rinsed and dried but im not too keen using bleach in case i dont clean it right. I put in a half log i have but she usually does it in her hide. It could be a good idea in yours as everything seems to be smooth

Dont worry about all the questions i was a lot worse...still am lol



Thank you so much for the help , Me either I prefer to clean my stuff with F10 as it can be much safer , I have cleaned the rock in F10 solution and then I have put it in the oven at 100C and will leave it in there for about 3 hours to kill any parasites.

Can Royals get scale rot from to much humidity ?

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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nok1888
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314 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rock will be fine after that. I think too high humidity over long periods of time can cause it but its mostly if the substrate is left wet it can cause scale rot. As long as you keep humidity between 50-55% and make sure you check substrate daily the snake will be fine

0.1.0 Royal Normal - Orlina Bodhi Lobsang
1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  14:56:29  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

Rock will be fine after that. I think too high humidity over long periods of time can cause it but its mostly if the substrate is left wet it can cause scale rot. As long as you keep humidity between 50-55% and make sure you check substrate daily the snake will be fine



Thanks again great advice . For substrate I am using kitchen towl as I wan't to make sure it's ok then after about a month I shall put it on to Aspen , Is Aspen ok to use with a Royal , I use Aspen for my Cornsnakes.

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

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nok1888
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  15:00:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aye its aspen i use, just dont feed on it then its fine

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1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  15:04:49  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

Aye its aspen i use, just dont feed on it then its fine



Yes I never do feed on top of loose substrate , I always put a paper towel down or feed out of the encloser.

I may have some more questions for you when they pop in to my head.

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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nok1888
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United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  15:08:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol ive asked a fair few questions myself lol

Always someone on here to help

0.1.0 Royal Normal - Orlina Bodhi Lobsang
1.0.0 Royal Normal - Sedrick Rinzen Sonam
2.0.0 Cats 18 y/o - Monty, kitten - Dodger
2.0.0 Border Collie's 7 y/o - Jinky, 2 y/o - Chance
0.0.5 Goldfish - Haggis, Pookie, Oddball, Spongebob and Slimey (kids eh lol)
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  15:18:23  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nok1888

Lol ive asked a fair few questions myself lol

Always someone on here to help




0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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louise32
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  15:38:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My girl is just on kitchen roll.

She shed 2 days after she came home and had not been given a moss box or extra humidity and shed fine apart from a retained tail tip that came off easily when I wet my hands and let her pass through them.

How old is she? Do you know her weight? What size rub is she in at the breeders/shop?
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hiper2009
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259 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  17:22:05  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by louise32

My girl is just on kitchen roll.

She shed 2 days after she came home and had not been given a moss box or extra humidity and shed fine apart from a retained tail tip that came off easily when I wet my hands and let her pass through them.

How old is she? Do you know her weight? What size rub is she in at the breeders/shop?



Oh thats good , And the only information I have is that there are 4 het pied's and non of them have been sexed yet until the bloke thinks that they are ready to go he will sex one that I choose , he said they are late CB10's poss from Sept or Oct last year , They was non feeders hence why they are so tiny but he has only just got them to feed from this year and he also said they are being fed small mice and they have had 4 feeds well on the 4th feed i watched that when he fed them and saw they took food , but he said he is not willing to let them go until they have had 5 feeds. So he said he shall give me a ring on monday to confirm my first pick out of the 4 for wednesday .

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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louise32
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  14:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

quote:
Originally posted by louise32

My girl is just on kitchen roll.

She shed 2 days after she came home and had not been given a moss box or extra humidity and shed fine apart from a retained tail tip that came off easily when I wet my hands and let her pass through them.

How old is she? Do you know her weight? What size rub is she in at the breeders/shop?



Oh thats good , And the only information I have is that there are 4 het pied's and non of them have been sexed yet until the bloke thinks that they are ready to go he will sex one that I choose , he said they are late CB10's poss from Sept or Oct last year , They was non feeders hence why they are so tiny but he has only just got them to feed from this year and he also said they are being fed small mice and they have had 4 feeds well on the 4th feed i watched that when he fed them and saw they took food , but he said he is not willing to let them go until they have had 5 feeds. So he said he shall give me a ring on monday to confirm my first pick out of the 4 for wednesday .



Oh I didn't know they were non feeders. How often are they being fed now? Fingers crossed it will continue to feed for you. You would def be best to follow the advice of no handling or contact (other than spot clean and water change) until it has taken 3 feeds from you. I personally wouldn't put it in a rub that big but thats just going from my own experience with my girl woh wasn't happy in a 9L rub. You will have to find out his/her weight and the exact month of hatch. Mine girl was september 2010 baby too so would be interested to compare.

How did you manage to sort the cold end temps out in the end?
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hiper2009
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  17:57:19  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by louise32

quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

quote:
Originally posted by louise32

My girl is just on kitchen roll.

She shed 2 days after she came home and had not been given a moss box or extra humidity and shed fine apart from a retained tail tip that came off easily when I wet my hands and let her pass through them.

How old is she? Do you know her weight? What size rub is she in at the breeders/shop?



Oh thats good , And the only information I have is that there are 4 het pied's and non of them have been sexed yet until the bloke thinks that they are ready to go he will sex one that I choose , he said they are late CB10's poss from Sept or Oct last year , They was non feeders hence why they are so tiny but he has only just got them to feed from this year and he also said they are being fed small mice and they have had 4 feeds well on the 4th feed i watched that when he fed them and saw they took food , but he said he is not willing to let them go until they have had 5 feeds. So he said he shall give me a ring on monday to confirm my first pick out of the 4 for wednesday .



Oh I didn't know they were non feeders. How often are they being fed now? Fingers crossed it will continue to feed for you. You would def be best to follow the advice of no handling or contact (other than spot clean and water change) until it has taken 3 feeds from you. I personally wouldn't put it in a rub that big but thats just going from my own experience with my girl woh wasn't happy in a 9L rub. You will have to find out his/her weight and the exact month of hatch. Mine girl was september 2010 baby too so would be interested to compare.

How did you manage to sort the cold end temps out in the end?



Well I rang them up to ask the question and he said he has got 4 out of 7 to feed from mid Feb this year and they will have there 5th prey on monday then I should be able to collect on Wednesday, yes will defo get weights when I bring it home on Wednesday/Thursday.

I sorted the cool end temp by moving the RUB and putting it on top of Bow's Pink RUB and that has now boosted the temp of the cold side to 24.6C which is alot better then 16C/12C.

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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