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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal

Czech Republic
1584 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  20:34:36  Show Profile  Click to see Tawfik47's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have the royal in glass viv.
The temperature in the viv is 74 F hot side 68 F cold side.
I use a heat mat and a bulb.
I cant raise the temperature of the heat mat because i put it in the viv not under it so i'm afraid to burn the snake if i raised it too much to heat the whole viv.
the viv is 80cm X 60cm X 40cm
Please help me friends.

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I had a royal python (Blitz) for two years for those who are wondering what I'm doing here with my boa :D

blackskull
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  20:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what wattage bulb are u using? you could buy a higger wattage bulb

you don't need a heat mat as well as a buld. bulbs, guarded, are better as there is always the risk of thermal blocking when using a matt. but if you do continue to use the matt it should be under the viv so the snake doesn't come into contact with it

also glass viv are a pain to try and retain the heat. i had a glass one for one of mine for a couple of months but got rid of it. wooden vivs are alot better for keeping the heat

1.1 normal royal, sully, silver
0.1 pinstripe royal, penny
1.1 pastel royal, lars, clover
0.1 lesser royal, serenity
0.1 black pastel royal, betty
0.1 mojave royal, mavis
0.1 normal het clown
1.0 pastel het clown
1.0 nuclear, ned
1.0 super phantom
1.0 childrens python, myles
0.1 hog island boa
0.1 sonoran x boa, grace
0.0.1 mack snow leopard gecko, munchkin
4.1 cats, stan, dave, marble, binx, daisy
4.1 rabbits, mol, ted, bill, spud, alice
0.1 crazy cat/bunny lady of bridgwater, lucy

Edited by - blackskull on 28/03/2011 21:05:07
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  22:54:42  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The above is good advice.

Try insulating the viv with polystyrene on 3 sides and underneath. Also, is the roof a mesh or sealed? - If mesh, you may need to cover some of it to try and retain the heat.



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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal

Czech Republic
1584 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  23:20:33  Show Profile  Click to see Tawfik47's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1- What is the thermal blocking risk ? what do you mean ?
2- The roof is sealed, I'll try the polystyrene.
Thank you guys for the help, this is my first time having a snake :D
i read alot but still facing some troubles :P

1.0.0 Common Boa - Revo CB13

I had a royal python (Blitz) for two years for those who are wondering what I'm doing here with my boa :D
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  23:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1 - Thermal blocking in lay terms is the sheer weight and amount of snake in contact with the mat causes the mat to get hotter as the heat has nowhere to disperse. It leads to very severe burns. Royals or any heavy bodied snake should never be in contact with a heat mat. Unless the thermal blocking is occuring at the stat probe then it can be missed and will overheat regardless of whether there is a stat or not.

2 - Glass is a rubbish insulator, Polystyrene is a very good idea.


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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal

Czech Republic
1584 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  09:19:40  Show Profile  Click to see Tawfik47's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Guys what is "moss hide" ? the one you use when your sanke start to shed ?
If there is pics I'll be grateful :)

1.0.0 Common Boa - Revo CB13

I had a royal python (Blitz) for two years for those who are wondering what I'm doing here with my boa :D
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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal

Czech Republic
1584 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  09:25:50  Show Profile  Click to see Tawfik47's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
One more thing, can I feed my RP hamster instead of mouse, because there is no mouse available in the city here, there's only hamsters or little chicks

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n/a
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7384 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  10:18:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Tawfik, hamsters are fine for royals - chicks have no nourishment in them. Feed a hamster that weighs between 10/15% of your snake's body weight, every 5 days if the snake is under 400g, every week if the snake is between 400 and 800gm. I'm assuming your reptile shop sells frozen hamsters in sizes from birth to adult - they can tell you the approximate weight.

Hope this helps.




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reptilemadd
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
969 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  10:20:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tawfik congrats on getting your snake a "moss hide" is just a hide box left in the cold side with spagnum moss inside it that is damp "NOT WET", which raises the humidity and helps snakey shed, but if you haven't got any moss a damp face cloth will work just as well, or moving the water bowl into the hot end. There are "how too's" posted in the D.I.Y section that will help

1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
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Strawb
Yearling

Germany
120 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  18:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally I would drop the mat and use either a ceramic bulb or an IR bulb attached to a thermostat. I have an IR bulb running 24hrs controlled by a stat and Tia seems very happy with the arrangement.
As previously said, if you want to keep the mat then put it outside the viv and run it via a stat.
Congratulations on joining the royal family.
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 29/03/2011 :  21:59:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try a Barry White CD and a bottle of red wine.


(someone had to)


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n/a
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Posted - 29/03/2011 :  22:34:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Try a Barry White CD and a bottle of red wine.


(someone had to)


OMG Bob, your jokes are worse than mine!


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STICKS
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  18:47:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there if you have trouble getting the moss hide i use a ice cream tub cut a hole in the lidd and put some tissue in it with some water not to much just so the tissue sokes up the water you will need to check this every day they do like to poo in it and use it like a loo.
All the best D.
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