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Howard01
Snake Mite

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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:03:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there. I have been reading about wots happening in the US with regards 2 the ban on reptiles & how they are trying to enforce a pet ban. How will this affect us here in the UK.

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Lotabob
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:11:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no change to the UK.

As to the change of law in the US its a ban on the movement of animals across state lines which then hands each state the ability to legislate and police their own controls. It is not a ban on reptiles.



Edited by - Lotabob on 08/02/2012 21:12:25
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reptilemadd
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:30:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As bob says it's a ban on them crossing state lines however I'm not sure if this would apply but It could mean the end of some breeders exporting to over here if the snakes have to cross a state line in order to get to an airport...

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Howard01
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:38:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from the videos i have watched tho,the big issue lies in the fact that as a breeder in the US it has a huge impact cos that would make it difficult to sell & then knock on effect people not being 2 keep the snakes etc etc. Will that not affect the market worldwide at all & if the US are doing it,will we not have the knock affect to europe etc

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GMac
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:45:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Export hasnt been effected by the ban, animals can still be exported from the US. Just not interstate


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Howard01
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:49:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
is that still a possibilty tho. its a shame it has 2 happen in the 1st place

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marc_sg
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  22:05:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you say its a shame but its due to irresponsible keepers getting bored and just letting them go in the wild. the problem over there is they survive perfectly so their getting more and more in the wild specially when its breeding season. this is why i read books and websites before i get any animal because these people just have a two minute wonder and despose as they fill


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marc_sg
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  22:07:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they can be bothered.but it ruins it for everyone else.


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Howard01
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  22:11:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was thinking that after i submitted my post. i think that & across europe etc

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marc_sg
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  22:20:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to be onest its not the same situation. our climate would kill off most the escapees or let loose royals any way. but as a country we're not into reptiles as much as america. they are ten years ahead of us so their reptile colonies are larger then our. i think we'd have more trouble with people breeding the mice and rats and them escaping and causing problems


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jonnyc1988
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Posted - 09/02/2012 :  12:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The biggest problem was actually caused by a flood which destroyed a burmese python breeders building allowing them all to escape. They now all live in the everglades and compete as top predator. What I dont understand is how the US are going to police the python ban? There is no border control between statelines? So what stops people moving them? Also, how does this stop people releasing them into the wild? Surely if someone was moving across a stateline for a job or whatever but werent able to take their snake, it might encourage them to release it? STUPID LAW!!!


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Lotabob
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Posted - 09/02/2012 :  18:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its only the first step and will be mainly unpoliced as I understand it, the next step is for each state to decide the fate of snakes in that state. A state in theory could ban all reptiles and then the US wide ban on movements will be used to stop neighbouring states getting flooded with animals.


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jonnyc1988
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  12:10:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What an absolute joke!!! Why is every country ran by monkeys?!?! no wait I take that back. I watched a program on bbc the other night that proved monkeys are more intelligent than politicians!


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