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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:13:47
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Hey guys, just some more queries from a newbie Royal keeper 
last week i came into possession of my first Royal Hatchling, lovely little snake, and seems to have settled in quite well, aside from the first day he has not attempted to strike at me again, and has been exploring the faun every evening when he wakes up. I have handled him for short periods of time, and he's moving around while I'm handling him, and appears to be getting used to me, which is all great.
I attempted the first feed yesterday evening. I had been told its best to feed Royals in the evening as there much more active, so offered the rat fuzzy at 22:30, he did not strike, so i left it in the cool end of the faun over night.
He did not take it, so i removed and disposed of the rat fuzz this morning.
Now i have heard that Royals can be bad feeders, so i must say i suppose i expected it in some sense.
The Setup.
Temps in the Faun are around 32-33 in the warm end, but i do not have a thermometer in the cool end. He has a large hide in the middle of the warm/cool end and a smaller bark hide in the cool end, as advised by the local reptile store.
Does all this sound about right? or am i doing anything wrong/could be better. which could put him off his food?
I'm keen to get this right so any advice would be much appreciated.
How long should i go before offering food again, i know for certain he had two feeds previously on frozen rat fuzzy's at the pet store.
Thank you in advance! |
Bam™
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:16:37
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What heating are you using for the faun? It's rare to be able to get the right temperatures in one of those style as they have a lot of air holes in the roof.
As for feeding you shouldn't worry too much just yet, it's not that "royals are bad feeders" it's just the way they eat, they're not designed to eat often. :) |
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Stewy-C-
Yearling
United Kingdom
103 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:22:55
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As kelf said. How you heating?
Also, you should stop handling it until it has eaten a few times IMO. |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:24:33
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
What heating are you using for the faun? It's rare to be able to get the right temperatures in one of those style as they have a lot of air holes in the roof.
As for feeding you shouldn't worry too much just yet, it's not that "royals are bad feeders" it's just the way they eat, they're not designed to eat often. :)
Fast reply  - Using a 12w heat mat 11x11 - Heat mat is on a polystyrene base to help reflect the heat upwards into the tank, and the stat and thermometer are on the bottom of the tank, so thats not air temperature, thats the floor temps.
I know its been just over two weeks since he last fed at the pet store. from what i understand, adult Royals can go months between feeds, how long is it expected for hatchies?
I have covered the faun with a tea towel to try and help him settle in, so maybe that has helped with the temps, should i remove it? |
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2.0.0 Royal Pythons
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Edited by - Bam on 18/07/2012 19:26:01 |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:27:18
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Originally posted by Stewy-C-
As kelf said. How you heating?
Also, you should stop handling it until it has eaten a few times IMO.
Thanks Stewy, will leave him with the handling. |
Bam™
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:28:10
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You should do to check that you can hold the temps, yes :) Sounds like you're pretty prepared.
Just to clarify - is the heat mat under the faun or inside? |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:32:51
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
You should do to check that you can hold the temps, yes :) Sounds like you're pretty prepared.
Just to clarify - is the heat mat under the faun or inside?
Okies, Thanks Kelfezond, ill remove the towel and see how the temps go. The heat mat is under the Faun with a 5mm air gap, i basically used the same setup as i used for my corn hatchies, just set the stat to 34 (100w Habistat)
He does feel quite warm to touch when i have handled him. but as advised, ill leave him now until he's feeding regularly. |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:34:48
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Sounds like you've got it all set my friend. And as for your question about fasting there is no real time period some handle it better than others, my little ones I generally don't worry about until 4 weeks have passed or I notice a weight loss, my adult Scar went over 12 months without a feed.
There is a guide on feeding on the general care section I wrote you might want to take a look at it :) |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:35:22
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| Whilst were on the subject guys, is there a better alternative to a Faunarium which would be more suited to a Royal Hatchling?... maybe better with temps, etc? |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:36:18
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| I use plastic RUBs (Really useful boxes) on my hatchling royals, basically the same thing a plastic container but without so much air flow from the lid. |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 19:45:26
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
I use plastic RUBs (Really useful boxes) on my hatchling royals, basically the same thing a plastic container but without so much air flow from the lid.
Well ill check the temps without the towel, else wise ill have a look for something else :)
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2012 : 23:19:17
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
I use plastic RUBs (Really useful boxes) on my hatchling royals, basically the same thing a plastic container but without so much air flow from the lid.
I found it harder to keep the temps right,As it takes awhile for the heat to pass through the plastic,due to the little feet to.
And trying to get the probe inside to sit flush on the bottom.I even broke some of the black plastic on the top off :) I found rubs easier |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 11:57:52
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Originally posted by boomslang
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond
I use plastic RUBs (Really useful boxes) on my hatchling royals, basically the same thing a plastic container but without so much air flow from the lid.
I found it harder to keep the temps right,As it takes awhile for the heat to pass through the plastic,due to the little feet to.
And trying to get the probe inside to sit flush on the bottom.I even broke some of the black plastic on the top off :) I found rubs easier
I had the same trouble with the probes, had to drill the holes a little wider on the lid, and then used kitchen towel strips to wedge them in really tight. I have my stat probe hanging down the back left corner, so it sits pretty flush on the bottom of the faun.
I hear a lot of people around using RUB's, what kinda size would you go for? |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 12:17:57
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| I use 9litre for hatchlings, 12 litre for juveniles and 50 litre for adults :) |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 12:52:14
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| Thanks Kelf, any ideas on where I could pick some up? |
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2.0.0 Royal Pythons
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CoN
Yearling
United Kingdom
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 13:39:16
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| Staples sell all the rubs you`d ever need. |
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 17:09:54
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I had the same trouble with the probes, had to drill the holes a little wider on the lid, and then used kitchen towel strips to wedge them in really tight. I have my stat probe hanging down the back left corner, so it sits pretty flush on the bottom of the faun.
I hear a lot of people around using RUB's, what kinda size would you go for?
Yeah i did this,but made a massive hole where the plastic just broke Kinda gave up at that point and just used a rub. |
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 22:03:40
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| Thanks guys will have a search about :) |
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2.0.0 Royal Pythons
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Bam
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 22:09:36
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Originally posted by boomslang
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I had the same trouble with the probes, had to drill the holes a little wider on the lid, and then used kitchen towel strips to wedge them in really tight. I have my stat probe hanging down the back left corner, so it sits pretty flush on the bottom of the faun.
I hear a lot of people around using RUB's, what kinda size would you go for?
Yeah i did this,but made a massive hole where the plastic just broke Kinda gave up at that point and just used a rub.
lol, the clips have broken on the lid, which is why the probe leads are wedged in with kitchen towel and sellotape, lol...
I'm thinking a RUB may be easier |
Bam™
2.0.0 Royal Pythons
1.0.1 Corn Snakes
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2012 : 22:11:58
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| Have a look at my ' how to set up a rub' video mate ;-) |
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Feeding!
