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JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 08:43:49
I have noticed quite a few morphs sold as CF, the more uncommon ones. If CF how can the seller know its a true speciman of the type described?
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Evolution Morphs Posted - 21/11/2012 : 07:32:37
I just have most of the base morphs
And this year only get a choice of 2 males
So I'll be happy to get any

There's a thread on the breeding section
Where people posted what there breeding

If you have a look there
Then have a look what they can make

www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard
JanieW Posted - 21/11/2012 : 07:21:07
Yeah I know Del, quite a few I reckon..really unless you are buying a snake with a certificate there's no way of knowing for sure, is there :)

I know this isn't really the correct thread Del, but what line are you concentrating breeding?
I would really like to add a Spider female at some point, I like the morphs that they can produce.
Evolution Morphs Posted - 21/11/2012 : 07:12:25
I'm not saying they ain't selling CF royals
Is good of them to say there CF
Because I wonder how many shops don't mention it

Morph to normal = 50/50% chance of normals and morph
As long as its not reccisseve
JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 23:51:35
That's how I understand it too JB :)

Damn Boa, Wynny..she's periscoped up hard againty the glass..wanting out but its almost midnight..her viv is directly opposite and i'm too sleepy to have her cuddling tonight lol

I get get that Andy thanks, but for an example..if you bred x single gene morph to a normal, wouldn't you only get normals or an x morph?
jbarlow91 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:48:23
Ii always thought it was
Cb-snakes that are made in captivity
Cf- eggs taken from wild and incubated to be sold after they hatch
Wc-snakes caught in wild and sold
AndyJ80 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:48:14
hets x visual will produce a visual when playing the law of averages.

what I was trying to say in my previous post is saying something is morph 'X' by looking at it is quite hard...look up banded and reduced pattern morphs, they look exactly the same but genetics are different and so are the dominance of the gene
JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:26:32
Oh and Del its Triple 8 that are selling CF Royals, and I know they are one of the best online stores for quality and after sales..they could be sued for 1000;s if they pulled that stunt.
JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:23:49
I was amazed to read how some of the best known U.S breeders have a wild caught in their gene pool. Wasn't it morten that has his best sire stolen in 2005 along with 50 other reptiles?
It was wild caught and passed the genetic trait to his offspring.

The thing is with morphs you always get approx a 25% chance of breeding normals and am I wrong in thinking most hets only produce visual if paired with visual?

Truly fascinating :)
Evolution Morphs Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:07:43
CH - captive harvest eggs taking from the wild and incubated by man
AndyJ80 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:04:33
from my understanding

CB - captive bred - gene line can be shown/proven (you know what the parents are)
CF - captive farmed - large scale breeding, morphs are visual but not necessarily proven (as in the case of hets)
WC - wild caught - says it all really lol
Evolution Morphs Posted - 20/11/2012 : 22:03:35
Oh right
Well I've never seen CF morphs for sale
If they look diffrent then there's a new line/genetic type of a ball/royal python
and will most prob get shipped to a big breeder in the US To prove out
jbarlow91 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 21:59:26
I think she means morphs that are cf lol
Evolution Morphs Posted - 20/11/2012 : 21:54:22
Where the hell did albino come from ?

You said CF

jbarlow91 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 21:51:08
Yeah I'd guess all the base morphs would of been either wc and cf. Weird when you think about all different morphs going round africa in the wild lol
JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 21:07:13
Actually its one of the top online reptile sales sites, specialising in various morphs. I doubt they'd get away with selling a normal when a CF albino had been paid for :)
The base morphs are surely found in the wild?
Evolution Morphs Posted - 20/11/2012 : 20:26:13
CF is not a morph it's a normal that's been captive farmed
jbarlow91 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 20:02:12
If it is from a reputable breeder should be ok but I'd probably go and see it so you can see that it is definately the morph they are saying it is or at least get a photo
JanieW Posted - 20/11/2012 : 17:21:55
Thanks Jb, so a fully visual bought from a reputable source is almost definately is, as the advertised morph :)
lmao and yeah I know that sounds complicated
jbarlow91 Posted - 20/11/2012 : 17:05:21
If they are visual morphs then they probably just know what the morph is by looking at them when they hatch but they won't know if any of them have hets or anything like that. Or if they look like they could be a morph might jusyt say it is so can make more money from it

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