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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  13:35:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
right im totally confused .com ????
My royal is in a 4ft wooden viv shes totally happy swaps hot to cold hides regularly in the day and night , eats fine and is healthy .
My prob is though she has a 150 watt red light heat bulb attached to a thermostat which is set at 85 should this switch off once it reaches that temp? as so far it hasn't ...ever???? or am I being a total knob lol????
The gradient temp is at 75f at the min im reading this from my digital thermometer which is at the bottom center of viv next to thermostat reader but my round dial thermometer is reading 80f ????
cant quite figure whats right and whats not?????
surely though if my royal was to cold she would be spending more time in her hot hide ????? as I mentioned she is using both regularly .
so im thinking as shes happy somethings not working properly??? where do I start?
be gentle im still new at this :S

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 18/11/2012 :  14:42:23  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
All is working normal don't worry, unfortunately the numbers on the thermostat mean squat! they're terribly unreliable so you've done the good thing by buying a digital thermometer to check. Just adjust the temperature based on the themometer reading and pretend that the numbers on the thermostat dial aren't there, just pretend it reads "High" and "low" instead ^^

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  14:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok fab :) thanks for the reply so do you recon I should set the thermostat higher then or as shes happy just leave it how it is ?

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  15:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can gradually increase the temperature according the the thermostat (as Kelf says ignore the numbers other than as a guide for which way to turn it to make it hotter) until you get the correct temperature on the digital thermometer which will have its probe directly under the bulb.


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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  15:23:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok fantastic!!!
:) and is the bulb ment to switch off once the viv has reached temp ???

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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

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Posted - 18/11/2012 :  15:52:34  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No the bulb will stay on id imagine your using a dimmer stat for your red bulb in which case the light just dims down to maintain the set temps

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  16:06:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
carlb1981 the thermostat im using is a Microclimate Ministat 300 - On/Off thermostat for controlling up to 300 watts of any non-light emitting heat source.???? so not a dimmer???

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  16:15:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but surely this red bulb is a light emitting heat source??? if its a red light as well as heat :S ????????

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/11/2012 :  16:22:13  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You're using the "wrong" thermostat, it will work and I've used one myself before in dire need but unfortunately it will keep turning on and off when it reaches the right heat. Which means you'll have a little mini strobe disco in there which 'could' stress out the snake and will cut the life of your bulb in half. Best bet is to get a dimming thermostat which instead of cutting the power when it gets too hot just reduces the power so the bulb gets dimmer, hence dimmer stat xD

The heater your stat is designed for is a heat mat :)

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  16:29:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
very interesting!!! it killed one bulb within two hours of having it!
I took it back to the shop who were more than happy to replace the bulb , the whole viv was a full set up from a fantastic reptile shop locally so came with thermostat could this just be a mistake on there part ??? when boxing up ???
also as ive said above it hasnt gone off yet even though it was set at 80-85f??? and from what Ive been told a 150 watt bulb should have by now??

pets ....
cookie & minty, staffie & greyhound
apple ,lemon bee royal
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fish
gerbils
and thumper the rabbit
and soon to join custard the lesser platty royal
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  16:49:50  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think that maybe because you have your stat probe in middle of viv instead of reading it directly under the heat source so you will probably not be up to temp that is set on your stat you might find that if you put thermometer probe directly under the bulb it will be way too hot

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  18:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amymay

very interesting!!! it killed one bulb within two hours of having it!
I took it back to the shop who were more than happy to replace the bulb , the whole viv was a full set up from a fantastic reptile shop locally so came with thermostat could this just be a mistake on there part ??? when boxing up ???
also as ive said above it hasnt gone off yet even though it was set at 80-85f??? and from what Ive been told a 150 watt bulb should have by now??

Thats the problem with kits and id say,they should know which stat is for what etc.Take the stat back you have,and change it for a dimmer stat.Then set everything up again with the new stat etc.

quote:
You can gradually increase the temperature according to the thermostat
Do it this way,ignore the numbers on the stat,Only go by what your thermometer says.


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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/11/2012 :  18:29:43  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For best results put your themostat probe and thermometer probe under the heat source the closer to that it is the easier to control your hot end temps

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  19:24:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It wasn't so much a kit it was viv on its own and other bits off shelf so wondering if they just popped wrong one in :s

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cookie & minty, staffie & greyhound
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chaz & dave , budgies
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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2012 :  19:28:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It wasn't so much a kit it was viv on its own and other bits off shelf so wondering if they just popped wrong one in :s

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cookie & minty, staffie & greyhound
apple ,lemon bee royal
chaz & dave , budgies
sooty & sweep ,polecats
fish
gerbils
and thumper the rabbit
and soon to join custard the lesser platty royal
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  02:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amymay

It wasn't so much a kit it was viv on its own and other bits off shelf so wondering if they just popped wrong one in :s

You mean they might have put the wrong stat,in another stats box?or just sold you the wrong stat :)

Whatever the reason take it back and swap it over.

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  12:44:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
problem solved guys tah for the advice :)

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fish
gerbils
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markmifsud
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
534 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  16:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As your asking them to look at what they have sold you, why not swap the IR 150w bulb for a 250w ceramic. It gives off no light at all.

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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
897 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  17:02:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The snakes can't see infra red light so shouldn't make too much difference :)

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/11/2012 :  17:38:12  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
People can though ;-)

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amymay
Hatchling

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  18:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nah I'm happy with my light lol nice to see her the very rare times she appears !!!

pets ....
cookie & minty, staffie & greyhound
apple ,lemon bee royal
chaz & dave , budgies
sooty & sweep ,polecats
fish
gerbils
and thumper the rabbit
and soon to join custard the lesser platty royal
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