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Blackecho
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  14:45:04  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, I have tried to put a guide together to help others to understand the genetics, let me know if it doesn't make sense:

















Hope that makes sense?




Edited by - Blackecho on 10/11/2008 08:53:49

Gingerpony
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  14:56:37  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
nice tutorial there BE i'm not up on Royal morphs but the same theory applies to corns, it's just knowing which combinations make which morphs!

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Blackecho
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  15:07:37  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Cheers Woolly. Do you have and Co-Dom or Dom genes in Corns?



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matty18714
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  16:20:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats great BE, its definatly cleared up a few things for me

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dazb
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  16:22:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my head hurts

seriously BE thanks for taking the time to create that. very helpful.





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Lewy
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  17:22:19  Show Profile  Visit Lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very useful BE and interesting. Sticky Status I believe!

Lewy

THE ROYAL PYTHON.co.uk Team


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Blackecho
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  17:42:54  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No probs, what else am I to do at work??



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  18:56:59  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Nice one B.E. That made more sense than most of the lecturers on the first year of my course.

....and it didn't make me fall asleep unlike most of the lectures, hence the choice of forensic entomology for my research project.

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saddleninja
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  09:45:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nice research BE, it makes a lot of sense

1 amel
1 okeette
2 normals
1 rosy rat x
3 royals
1 cali king
1 publean milk
1 yemen chameleon
2 orange spotted agamas
1 colombian rainbow boa
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Mancunian
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  10:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nicely explained there BE. Good job.
I love genetics but am more au fait with human medical genetics than snake morphs, which can baffle me at times, although the primciples are the essentially the same. I have never heard of a super/pastel bumblebee!!
It's amazing how much we now understand compared to just over 50 years ago when DNA was discovered.

1.0.0 Royal Python (Python regius) CB07 Tibo (Normal)
0.1.1 Corn Snakes (Elaphe guttata) CB07 Jasper (Amelanastic) CB07 Chico (Anerythristic Aztec)
1.1.0 California Kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getula californiae) CB05 Luka (B&W Banded) CB06 Lucien (Albino Banded)

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Gingerpony
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  14:35:57  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Cheers Woolly. Do you have and Co-Dom or Dom genes in Corns?


like you really expect to learn anything about genetics from me??
co-dom example in corns would be ultramel
dom example would be any of the 'wild types'

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Paulusworm
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  13:22:01  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So if I buy a mate for Sherman that is a morph of some kind then there will be a 25% chance of getting offspring of that morph and the other 75% will be normal. Is that right BE?

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vicki
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  14:57:19  Show Profile  Click to see vicki's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
very nice BE that was really quite interestin! and i actually learnt something! every day's a school day! lol

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dazb
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:00:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all depends on wot morph you buy. if its dominent, co-dominent or recessive...

dominent and co-dominent will give you 1st generation off spring, where as recessive wont.





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Paulusworm
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:16:45  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

all depends on wot morph you buy. if its dominent, co-dominent or recessive...

dominent and co-dominent will give you 1st generation off spring, where as recessive wont.






Was considering a homozygous albino.

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dazb
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:21:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you would get 100% Het Albino's...




Edited by - dazb on 15/11/2008 15:26:04
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dazb
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:30:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
unless sherman is het albino...



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Blackecho
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:30:46  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
As Daz states, they would all be normal het Albino, see above, with recessive genes you need a pair of genes (Sherman won't be able to provide one) to be visual Albino.



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  15:50:57  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I didn't even ask if he was het or not. Just met him at the pet shop and said yep, I'll take him. I'll chase them up for the info when I go up there next.

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dazb
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  16:06:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they may not know. worth asking though...



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 15/11/2008 :  16:41:09  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If they don't know then I guess it's just a case of luck then.

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