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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2009 :  10:32:45  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi peeps

Sorry i havent been on here for ages, Heffa is doing fine, temps and humidity is great now.

Heffa is due to shed already. My diary shows that she normally sheds every 4 to 5 weeks. Since the cold weather, her shedding is delayed. I fed her 12 days ago, skipped her feed on weds to keep her energy up. Her scales are pale and you can see she is due a shed, she isnt going really pale and her eyes have not gone blue. I have had the dam hide in there for nearly 2 weeks, her humidity level sits at about 57 to 65, even with the damp hide in the cool end.

She has pood twice in the last week, but no shed. Is there anything i can do?? Or is this just normal for this time of year??

Appreciate any advice and have a great xmas :)

GEPowditch

Brent09
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
24 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2009 :  13:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not an expert, I only got a first Royal there the other day but I do know they can be funny during the winter, not feeding, unusual temparment and stuff so I'd say it's down to the time of year but ask about and see what other people say. :)
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2009 :  15:16:47  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just wait



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boze
Yearling

United Kingdom
408 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2009 :  15:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aye snakes wont shed at exact intervals especially when theyre young and going through growth spurts. You also dont need to increase the humidity until AFTER her eyes have gone cloudy then cleared again as it wont serve much purpose before then because her skin wont be ready to come off yet.

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2009 :  21:47:27  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
this time of year everything tends to slow down, they eat less, so they grow less, so they need to shed less frequently.........

my big boa who usually always sheds exactly 7 days after the blue-eye phase has just taken a fortnight........just sit tight


Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/12/2009 :  22:33:52  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

this time of year everything tends to slow down, they eat less, so they grow less, so they need to shed less frequently.........

my big boa who usually always sheds exactly 7 days after the blue-eye phase has just taken a fortnight........just sit tight





Big Boa?



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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  21:06:47  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
problem is i havent seen her eyes go blue yet, but her skin looks really dry-like. especially on her head.

I have noticed that she seems to be pushing herself through tight spots, and rubbing her head a lot, so im thinking she struggling.

i had put a large water bowl in so she has the option to soak too. My room has been considerably dry with this weather, and her humidity has been sitting in 50's, even with the damp hide. So i have sprayed her rub and now it sitting in the 70's. Is this ok?

If she doesnt shed in the next few days/week do you recommend I bathe her?

Also she hasnt eaten now doe 2 weeks, cos I thought she would shed already. Do you think I should feed her, and she seems to be getting quite skinny. Will check her weight in the morning, she is too active now... lol

GEPowditch
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  21:09:54  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

my big boa who usually always sheds exactly 7 days after the blue-eye phase has just taken a fortnight........just sit tight


Big Boa?


yes BE at nearly 6ft she's the biggest one i've got and she's waaaaaay bigger than your RPs

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  21:14:57  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heffa

problem is i havent seen her eyes go blue yet....
humidity has been sitting in 50's, even with the damp hide. So i have sprayed her rub and now it sitting in the 70's. Is this ok?


is it possible you missed her blue-eyed phase of the sheding process? with Royals generally being so secretive it is possible...

increased humidity is fine if it's for a reason and for a short period of time (days....a week...) if you're sure she's due a shed put in several damp hides using sphagnum moss and take out the usual hides so the snake HAS to use the damp ones

do you have an average or recent weight for her?

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  21:22:47  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It could be possible I guess. Just managed to weigh her quickly and she is 400g and is 6 months old.

She is still in a 12L rub. So not a lot of room. I have water bowl on right side (cool end) normal hide on warm end and damp hide in the middle bwteen the two. I did have a damp hide on the warm but she still didnt use it and just slept on the kitchen towel. Being a right stubborn so and so.

I jus caught her really rubbing her head and she managed to get some of the skin off her head, so im really thinking she is struggling. She hasnt got really pale at all and her eyes are clear.

Im wandering whether to bathe her, or do you recommend a pillow case with some damp kitchen towel. I dont have any newspaper but have normal printing paper. or maybe bathe her??

GEPowditch
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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  22:22:12  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have given her a quick soak, hoping it will help with loosening up the skin. She hasnt shed any off, but thought it might help bring it on.

I used damp cotton buds on her head, but nothing is coming off. Her humidity level is currently sitting at 75%.

If she doesnt shed in the next couple of days, im not sure wot to do next?

She has stopped rubbing her head since her bath, so hopefully that it a good sign :)

GEPowditch
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  22:34:33  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just wait.



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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2009 :  22:40:55  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ok BE. How long do you think i should wait for before I should be concerned and consider bathing her again?

GEPowditch
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2009 :  07:42:46  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe 4 months I'd start to question it. That's about the longest I've had one take.



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reptilekeeper1992
Yearling

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2009 :  09:24:53  Show Profile  Click to see reptilekeeper1992's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yea, Boo is going through the same thing, her skin is all dull, her eyes have not gone blue yet, and i know i havent missed it because i have been off college and so see her every day now.
it has been 2 months since she last shed (october) and she is 5 months old and weighing 230g (she is a little 'un )
im just gonna wait and see
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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2009 :  13:10:28  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok will wait, was just concerned because she has really been rubbing her head.

GEPowditch
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Simonas
Yearling

United Kingdom
162 Posts

Posted - 24/12/2009 :  11:00:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ginger pony?
My May 09 is due for its first shed with me, it was harder to see the eye change unlike the Royal python but there was a milkiness to them earlier in the week. Today the skin has gone very loose looking by the neck area and especially today near the tail area where it loks very dry. Is this indicative of shedding? I only ask as I;ve never seen my royal shed I just find the skin the following day after I;ve given him sone peace and quiet to do it?

cheers Simon
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 25/12/2009 :  21:05:02  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
saggy skin can also be related to weight loss or dehydration as well as shedding.
if you've seen the blue-eyed stage then expect the eyes to clear again and for the snake to shed usually within about a week but don't be surprised if it does take a little longer.
might be worth putting a damp hide in to try and ease things along

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 29/12/2009 :  13:50:06  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
checked on heffa last night and her belly has gone a real "creamy" look, slightly pink. The creamyness is raising up her scales, and she now has gone really dull. Her humidity sits at about 62 to 65%. I keep a damp hide and a large water bowl in. She has been using the damp hide as I can see where she has squashed the moss.

Is this a good sign?

GEPowditch
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 29/12/2009 :  14:40:53  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a shed on the way.



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Heffa
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 29/12/2009 :  15:05:16  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Good good :)
Will keep you updated

GEPowditch
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