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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/03/2011 :  19:04:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I looked into a RUB for a Royal but I just couldn't see how to get the air temp up so went for a viv. Decided to give RUB's a go, I have now got a RUB setup for a hatchling Boa but as I predicted the ambient wouldn't shift past 20oC. I then sat it on top of the royal viv on a towel and the heat the royal viv kicks out through the roof has heated the ambient to 25oC which is about right for the Boa. After trying a RUB setup I'm not a fan of RUB's and will only be using this one until the Royal outgrows his viv (he's not far off moving up to a three footer). For corns and other non tropical snakes the RUB's would be great but personally, not my cup of tea.


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hiper2009
Yearling

United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2011 :  19:09:02  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Royalbob

quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Am I barking up the wrong tree when I say that Royals have a requirement for an ambient air temp of around the 26-28 degrees Centigrade?



Nope your at the right tree Lotabob. Ambient needs to be in the above range stated if were looking to replicate the temperature of our snakes natural environment . 12 - 16 c is just way to cold.

Can i ask how you fixed the problem Hiper2009?


Of course you can Bob, I sorted the cool end temp by moving the RUB and putting it on top of Bow's Pink RUB and that has now boosted the temp of the cold side to 24.6C which is alot better then 16C/12C , That was tested over 1day and this is now the 2nd day and the temp has gone up a tiny bit to 26.3C in cool end I think that's the best I am going to get it at.

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1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2011 :  22:42:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Purely out of curiosity but how do you heat the pink RUB that you have now stacked the new Royal RUB on, and how is that now heating your Royal RUB's ambient temp? I'm trying to get my head around RUB's and wasn't able to get a RUB's ambient anywhere over room temp with a heat mat (which I knew would be the case) until I sat it on top of my Royal viv which has a 100 Watt heat bulb heating up the air, the ground at the hot spot and the heat rising up heats the whole roof. I've lost my quick defrosting area but worth it to get the RUB running


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hiper2009
Yearling

United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2011 :  23:43:20  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Purely out of curiosity but how do you heat the pink RUB that you have now stacked the new Royal RUB on, and how is that now heating your Royal RUB's ambient temp? I'm trying to get my head around RUB's and wasn't able to get a RUB's ambient anywhere over room temp with a heat mat (which I knew would be the case) until I sat it on top of my Royal viv which has a 100 Watt heat bulb heating up the air, the ground at the hot spot and the heat rising up heats the whole roof. I've lost my quick defrosting area but worth it to get the RUB running



Will get a pic for you

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0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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hiper2009
Yearling

United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  12:43:26  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Purely out of curiosity but how do you heat the pink RUB that you have now stacked the new Royal RUB on, and how is that now heating your Royal RUB's ambient temp? I'm trying to get my head around RUB's and wasn't able to get a RUB's ambient anywhere over room temp with a heat mat (which I knew would be the case) until I sat it on top of my Royal viv which has a 100 Watt heat bulb heating up the air, the ground at the hot spot and the heat rising up heats the whole roof. I've lost my quick defrosting area but worth it to get the RUB running



From putting this RUB on top of the Pink one sorted the temps.

The Radiator you see behind is never turned on.



Edit: Forgot to add pic

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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Edited by - hiper2009 on 19/03/2011 12:45:14
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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/03/2011 :  14:45:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Typical corn snake out for its picture taken.

I still don't see how stacking the tubs helped but maybe it was the cold floor that affected the heat then as heat mats don't heat anything thats not touching it so stacking tubs that use heat mats would have little to no effect on ambient temp on the top tub, though the mat sitting on top of the bottom one would probably help the bottom one retain heat.

A just a little question. Do you use thermostats?


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hiper2009
Yearling

United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  15:25:03  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Typical corn snake out for its picture taken.

I still don't see how stacking the tubs helped but maybe it was the cold floor that affected the heat then as heat mats don't heat anything thats not touching it so stacking tubs that use heat mats would have little to no effect on ambient temp on the top tub, though the mat sitting on top of the bottom one would probably help the bottom one retain heat.

A just a little question. Do you use thermostats?



Yes it was on floor so by moving it on top of another RUB solved it.

Yes of course I use a Thermostat I have two , One Microclimate 300w Matstat and one Microclimate 600w dimmer stat , One is stuck on the side of the Viv and other other is not in use yet until I get my Royal .

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0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  15:44:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you are running 1 corn snake in a viv, 1 corn in a glass tank, and 2 BRB's in tubs off one stat and have another not in use until the Royal arrives?


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louise32
Yearling

275 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  15:47:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

So you are running 1 corn snake in a viv, 1 corn in a glass tank, and 2 BRB's in tubs off one stat and have another not in use until the Royal arrives?



Makes sense as the corns and brb require the same temps but Royals need higher so can't run off the same stat.
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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  15:54:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Confused.com for a moment, got my Boa and the BRB's confused, my Boa needs the same as the royal (almost).

Well all is well if temps are good, you can just get filling the tubs with Royal now and decide what next.

I was eyeing up a burm today, was so tempted but told myself it was a ridiculous idea, stick to 7 foot max for me.



Edited by - Lotabob on 19/03/2011 15:59:45
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
259 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  18:24:24  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

So you are running 1 corn snake in a viv, 1 corn in a glass tank, and 2 BRB's in tubs off one stat and have another not in use until the Royal arrives?



Yes the cornsnake's and the brazilian rainbow boa's share a microclimate 300w thermostat as they have the same temps , And I have a spare dimmer for my Royal when it comes will be connected up , I have already tested the dimmer for the royal's setup and all is working well.
quote:
Originally posted by louise32

Makes sense as the corns and brb require the same temps but Royals need higher so can't run off the same stat.



Correct ^^

0.0.1 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


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