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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/06/2011 : 11:44:31
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Hi, iv been thinking about getting a royal for a while now but i cant decide between a royal or a king snake.
Im already signed up on the king snake forum and thought id sign up here aswell. The only thing that is discouraging me from getting a royal is that they are such problem feeders.
Just thought id drop in and say hi and im looking forward to having a nosy round this forum.  |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
     
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
1152 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 12:13:11
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Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 12:42:44
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Hi Emma, royals are not too bad. I have 3 that feed every week without fail, they eat out of the viv in a rub, no matter what the light conditions are, and 1 lazy adult male who still has his mind on other things apart from food :)
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1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
Bromley. SE London |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 12:56:17
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Thanks for the replys :)
Yeah i know they're not all bad eaters but it still worries me a bit.
Iv handled them quite a lot because im studying Animal Management at college and im around them and other reptiles alot and i really like them,so even if i dont get one for my first snake i'll probrably get one for my second snake anyway :) |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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Tawfik47
Fully Grown Royal
Czech Republic
1584 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 13:04:34
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Hi there, royals maybe are not the beast feeders but they are one of the best pets though
Welcome to the forum. |
1.0.0 Common Boa - Revo CB13
I had a royal python (Blitz) for two years for those who are wondering what I'm doing here with my boa :D |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 13:05:34
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| Thank you :) |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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Posted - 01/06/2011 : 17:06:33
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
At any point between autumn/spring, a royal may fast for weeks or months, because it's the breeding season and their minds are on higher (or lower) things! I look on it as a kind of hibernation. I've just had my first winter with 3 royals, a cf10, a cf09 and a cb06, and they all fasted and they're all eating again now (fingers crossed!)
It isn't that they're poor eaters - they just don't eat all the year round!
(Well, sometimes you can find a hatchling whose settling-in disrupts its eating; they're shy guys, as you'll know, but that is another story. Even so, once re-started, they'll usually be grand eaters ...until the winter fast of course.) |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 17:48:06
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Thank you for the information and the welcome :)
btw what does cf mean? cb means captive bred if im not mistaken?
Thanks :) |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 17:55:17
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| Captive farmed, I think it means the parents were taken from the wild, or the eggs were taken from the wild. God knows i've never seen a cf snake hehe |
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7384 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:13:01
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Yeah, roughly what Kelf says, although I reckon a snake bred in captivity from wild-caught parent/s would be categorised as cb.
Usually a captive farmed royal is hatched from eggs 'harvested' from wild royal python burrows in Ghana, Togo and Benin in West Africa. The hatchlings are then exported to the UK, US and other countries to supply the pet trade. If this doesn't sound bad enough, apparently there is over-harvesting of eggs just in case a rare morph appears from wild stock.
When I bought Shahi, my first royal, I didn't understand about cf, which is also known as captive 'ranched'. I HAD done some homework, mind, but didn't fully realise his history. As far as I'm concerned, he was here, and I'm very glad I gave him a home - he's a most beautiful snake. Saada, my other cf, came to me via Preloved as her owner was moving into student accommodation, where she wasn't allowed. She too is a little beauty, with a very 'reduced' pattern ie few dark spots in the golden loop shapes on her sides.
CF or cb, royals are great. It is said that the cf royals coming into the UK prevent the gene pool of breeding snakes from stagnating, and a percentage of cf royals are released back into the wild to keep up population levels (for further depredations? ) but I'm afraid there are less savoury tales of this trade. But Shahi was here and he needed a home - I don't regret buying him. Though I'm not sure if I'd support or condone the cf trade in future ...
Just glad, though, that I have Shahi and Saada. |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:35:17
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| Thanks again for all the information, you've all been very helpful and welcoming :) |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:35:26
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Ah I knew it was something along those lines.
Cf and wc snakes will always be frowned upon, my big male is wc (wild caught). I've always gone on with the whole ''if it's already been captured or farmed before I got involved then all i'm doing is giving a snake a good home'. But at the same time I guess if nobody bought cf or wc then people would stop taking them. Suppose it depends if you look at the big picture or the small picture, or if you care about the issue at all. All I know is my male is grreat and I wouldn't trade him :D |
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7384 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:41:37
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| Hmm, that is how these toerags get us - because I for one wouldn't refuse a home to an imported animal in need if I could give it the proper space and attention ... |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:41:58
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| Yeah i don't agree with taking animals from the wild but i see your point Kelfezond, if they have already been taken from the wild and are in a shop then someones going to buy it eventually anyway, so i wouldnt really be against giving one a home either. |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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blackskull
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1278 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 21:22:45
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hi and welcome
be carefull though, if you get one royal it wont stop there lol |
1.1 normal royal, sully, silver
0.1 pinstripe royal, penny
1.1 pastel royal, lars, clover
0.1 lesser royal, serenity
0.1 black pastel royal, betty
0.1 mojave royal, mavis
0.1 normal het clown
1.0 pastel het clown
1.0 nuclear, ned
1.0 super phantom
1.0 childrens python, myles
0.1 hog island boa
0.1 sonoran x boa, grace
0.0.1 mack snow leopard gecko, munchkin
4.1 cats, stan, dave, marble, binx, daisy
4.1 rabbits, mol, ted, bill, spud, alice
0.1 crazy cat/bunny lady of bridgwater, lucy |
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Jayde
Yearling
United Kingdom
291 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 22:04:17
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
Usually a captive farmed royal is hatched from eggs 'harvested' from wild royal python burrows in Ghana, Togo and Benin in West Africa.
I think you'd probably have to be mad to take on this job |
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Posted - 01/06/2011 : 22:21:36
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| It's an industry, I'm afraid. If you can possibly get hold of a copy of Kevin McCurley's 'Complete Ball Python', that explains it far better than I can in a short post. And it's a bit like the gold rush - if a guy can hatch a different morph he can make a lot of dough ... I believe there's a lot of stuff on google. But it's not a good scene. |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2011 : 20:19:44
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Originally posted by blackskull
hi and welcome
be carefull though, if you get one royal it wont stop there lol
Hehe i hope it doesn't I'v been researching different snakes for a while now and they are all so pretty i want them all! My parents have other ideas though  it took me long enough to convince them to let me have this snake. The plan is to have my first snake for a few months and let my parents get used to having it around and then start working on letting me have another |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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emmaajayyne
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2011 : 20:24:43
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
It's an industry, I'm afraid. If you can possibly get hold of a copy of Kevin McCurley's 'Complete Ball Python', that explains it far better than I can in a short post. And it's a bit like the gold rush - if a guy can hatch a different morph he can make a lot of dough ... I believe there's a lot of stuff on google. But it's not a good scene.
Is that book on Amazon? I will keep an eye out for it. |
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko - Toby
1.0.0 Crested Gecko - Hector
0.0.1 Banded Cali King - Murray
1.0.0 Pastel Dwarf Boa - Dave
1.0.0 Black Long Haired Cat - Pixie
0.1.0 Grey Tabby Cat - Ariel
2.0.0 Rats - Gizmo and Rocky R.I.P
Soon to come:
1.0.0 Very Cute Puppy - Luka
"Humans are so interesting. In this world of infinate wonders
they have managed to invent boredom" ---- Terry Pratchet |
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