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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
 Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:18:55
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I think that the key point that both of you are making is that it if you were to go down this route then it should only be done by an experienced keeper/vet or under the supervision of an experienced keeper/vet and not by someone who has comparatively little experience.
Not sure if I would pull a dent from a snake's eye myself even though I used to work in a crash repair workshop. What about using a slide hammer? Worked a treat on the front wing of a transit  . |
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james200789
Yearling
United Kingdom
183 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:24:12
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| nobody gets it? i didn't set out to pull a dent out, this is a method for pulling off retained eye caps used by probably one of the most experienced reptile keepers i know he showed me how to do it and it is a proven method. |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Monty)
1.0.0 Western hognose(Fredo)
0.1.0 false water cobra(Suzy)
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:36:21
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Originally posted by james200789
nobody gets it? i didn't set out to pull a dent out, this is a method for pulling off retained eye caps used by probably one of the most experienced reptile keepers i know he showed me how to do it and it is a proven method.
I know dude. Read the thread over. You and GP have both been saying pretty much the same thing all along. Eyecaps yes. Dents no. In the hands of an experienced keeper, low tack masking tape would work a treat for eyecap removal. I think it was 3M that used to make the stuff we used in the workshop. Anything stronger than a light breeze would blow it off the surface it was stuck to. |
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james200789
Yearling
United Kingdom
183 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:40:49
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| finally somebody who speaks my language |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Monty)
1.0.0 Western hognose(Fredo)
0.1.0 false water cobra(Suzy)
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2010 : 21:42:17
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ok so you pulled a 'dent' out NOT removed a retained eyecap...........the retained eyecap being what you had personally diagnosed and were attempting to treat.........
and you've never actually mentioned how you KNOW your royal wasn't dehydrated or what you did to attempt to rule dehydration out...........we have A LOT of noobs on here who i REALLY don't think need encouraging to attempt stuff like this. i'm sorry if i've missed one of your posts on this thread that stated that. |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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SexyBear77
Hatchling
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2010 : 22:46:59
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I think if you can't tell the difference between a dent and a retained eyecap then you shouldn't be sticking tape to your snakes eye.
I am by far an expert, but Diego got a dent in his eye about a week after I got him. I put some damp moss in his viv, and he had shed by morning- dent gone. I'm sure it was far less stressful than sticking something on his eye and seeing if it came off.... |
1.0.0 Royal python- Diego
1.0.0 Ghost corn- Casper
0.1.0 Amel corn- Mushu
1.0.0 Miami corn- Crockett
3.0.0 Cats- Dave, Bodget and Scrumpy
0.9.0 Chickens- Mrs Featherstone, Stumpy, Lucky, Suzie Speckles, Daisy, Snowdrop, Duracell, Marilyn and Maureen
1.2.0 Border terriers- Milly, Mo and Harry
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james200789
Yearling
United Kingdom
183 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 10:02:40
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
I think if you can't tell the difference between a dent and a retained eyecap then you shouldn't be sticking tape to your snakes eye.
a retained eye cap can look either like a dent or a cross on the snakes eye.
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and you've never actually mentioned how you KNOW your royal wasn't dehydrated or what you did to attempt to rule dehydration out...........we have A LOT of noobs on here who i REALLY don't think need encouraging to attempt stuff like this.
i usualy give my snake a bath to help him go to toilet every week.
i do this as he is to proud of his home and will not poop or pee in it lol |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Monty)
1.0.0 Western hognose(Fredo)
0.1.0 false water cobra(Suzy)
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SexyBear77
Hatchling
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 11:16:37
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You said your snake had already shed, and you don't THINK he retained his eyecaps (I'm assuming you check the sheds very carefully and find out for sure whether or not the eyecaps were present?) and that he was due a shed, therefore couldn't have had them yet. So I dont get why you then stuck tape on his eye to see if it was an eyecap?
In my experience, retained eyecaps result in the eye looking cloudy, foggy or silvery, they can result in the edges of the eye looking scruffy, or it peeled partly back they clearly show the difference between normal eye and retained eyecaps. |
1.0.0 Royal python- Diego
1.0.0 Ghost corn- Casper
0.1.0 Amel corn- Mushu
1.0.0 Miami corn- Crockett
3.0.0 Cats- Dave, Bodget and Scrumpy
0.9.0 Chickens- Mrs Featherstone, Stumpy, Lucky, Suzie Speckles, Daisy, Snowdrop, Duracell, Marilyn and Maureen
1.2.0 Border terriers- Milly, Mo and Harry
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james200789
Yearling
United Kingdom
183 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 11:41:16
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| when my snake sheds he usually sheds inside a log i then pull out the skin and go through it, his last shed was quite stressful for him as he moved to a new viv and his skin didnt come off in one piece it was all over his viv i checked him thoroughly and couldnt see any skin retained, and as you said in YOUR EXPERIENCE, people all have different experiences i have had snakes which have retained eye caps and you wouldnt have noticed until the next shed when the eye cap was thicker and bigger than the other eye cap. after working in a reptile shop for the past 2 years and doing this atleast once a fortnight i saw it fit to do to my own snake. Do you read previous posts ?? Read the last post by PAULUSWORM he explains exactly how sticky the tape is!! |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Monty)
1.0.0 Western hognose(Fredo)
0.1.0 false water cobra(Suzy)
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SexyBear77
Hatchling
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 12:14:22
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I do read previous posts, and I'm not debating the stickyness of the tape. In fact, I don't think I have mentioned stickyness at all. What I am getting at is that there are far better ways to deal with a DENT then sticky tape.
"Eyecaps yes. Dents no. In the hands of an experienced keeper, low tack masking tape would work a treat for eyecap removal."- taken directly from Paulusworms post. |
1.0.0 Royal python- Diego
1.0.0 Ghost corn- Casper
0.1.0 Amel corn- Mushu
1.0.0 Miami corn- Crockett
3.0.0 Cats- Dave, Bodget and Scrumpy
0.9.0 Chickens- Mrs Featherstone, Stumpy, Lucky, Suzie Speckles, Daisy, Snowdrop, Duracell, Marilyn and Maureen
1.2.0 Border terriers- Milly, Mo and Harry
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james200789
Yearling
United Kingdom
183 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 12:20:36
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| and im trying to tell you that i wasn't attempting to pull out a dent, i have seen retained eye caps which looked like dents in the snakes eye on many occasions so my observation was that it could be a retained eye cap and that i needed to remove it before it could cause some serious damage and the dent just happened to pop out, the snake was not harmed in anyway, within 2 hours he had ate a rat and his eye was fine. |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Monty)
1.0.0 Western hognose(Fredo)
0.1.0 false water cobra(Suzy)
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 12:50:47
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| I think this thread has run its course and will close it to stop it decending into chaos. If anyone has a valid point they would like to add, please feel free to e-mail me @ theblackecho@msn.com |
 
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nice dent in eye!!
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