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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  10:44:55  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
First time in 12 Royals and 2 years of keeping that I've had a snake bleed during shed! Was very upset, gave her a bath and used some cotton buds to remove any stuck bloodied shed.

Had concerns it might be a burn but fairly sure it's not now, just a very bad shed. Missed her turning blue and didn't provide any more humidity, feel awful!

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2012 :  11:00:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't beat yourself up mate. who was it?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  11:10:49  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Cleopatra, Annoying because I was hoping she'd reach breeding weight this year, now she'll probably stop feeding. :(

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badwool
Sub Adult

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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  11:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
aw mate - accidents happen!

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  11:52:39  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Will upload some pictures because I'm absolutely stumped on what it actually is :/

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  12:06:44  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote


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Stewy-C-
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  12:28:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like scale rot from the pics.

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2012 :  12:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is weird. Certainly not a burn

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Lotabob
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  14:57:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah looks like scale rot to me from that picture but the vet will have a much better idea what's what as I just cant imagine there would be the conditions for scale rot as your setups are always clean and dry, maybe something else at play.


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badwool
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  15:30:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you have any iodine?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  15:33:08  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Vet said it was a bacterial infection which may have been caused by using cheap Aubiose subtrate he recommended changing to newspaper, apparently when the snakes shed they build up a layer of fluid between old and new skin, bugs are attracted to this so it often happens during sheds.
Got some Baytril to help and gotta give her a salt bath and vaseline.

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badwool
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  15:41:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you feel better now you know it wasn't your fault?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  15:47:39  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah although I'm going to be taking all the snakes off Aubiose now lol

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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  16:24:47  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

Yeah although I'm going to be taking all the snakes off Aubiose now lol



try megazorb. brilliant stuff


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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  16:31:16  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Actually the vet gave me a good idea, said to buy a few yards of lining paper which is apparently very absorbant and can be changed quickly and easiler, I think I'll give that a try :) less bloody substrate getting stuck in my carpet too! :D

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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  16:42:53  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

Actually the vet gave me a good idea, said to buy a few yards of lining paper which is apparently very absorbant and can be changed quickly and easiler, I think I'll give that a try :) less bloody substrate getting stuck in my carpet too! :D



ye thats better than newspaper. no ink, its like the fish and chip shop paper.
i just prefer using substrate as i hate having a hard matress, so in my mind the snakes prefer the substrate to get comfy on


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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  17:41:48  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry to here this Glad your getting it sorted

This is what I'm using at the moment
Fits lovely in v70 tubs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251121884000

I was using aubiose but moved to the paper off cuts there's about 600 pieces in a 10kg ream

Only down side is when the royal pees and poos
It gets soaked and until you check on them they have to sit on it

Surrey pets do a 150 litre aspen bulk buy sack
Maybe something to check out

So after reading this I'm not sure I'm going back to aubiose

Hope your royal recovers quickly for you


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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  19:49:40  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
saying that though, think of the amount of royal owner who do use aubiose and dont ever have any problems.
myself i wouldnt stop using it on all the snakes, i would just not use it with sed snake.
my female had a problem with getting pieces into her mouth and that causing RI symptoms. i now have her on kitchen roll but still have the male on aubiose as hes never had problems. although will be using megazorb on both when it turns up


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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  21:33:15  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aye I've always used it and never had any problems, I'm sure it's very unlikely but to be honest only reason I was using the damn stuff in the first place is because I thought it was better for them than newspaper :/

I hate the stuff it gets all over my room and carpet !! lol

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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  22:40:48  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

Aye I've always used it and never had any problems, I'm sure it's very unlikely but to be honest only reason I was using the damn stuff in the first place is because I thought it was better for them than newspaper :/

I hate the stuff it gets all over my room and carpet !! lol



have a look on the thread on captive bred. some good points on there


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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  22:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say its been a freak occurrence, your setups are not in any way breeding grounds for bugs. Possibly a splinter and a slither through a freshly laid poop or something, something that you could never plan for or prevent.


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