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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2012 :  23:27:31  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aye honestly I think it's a mix of all these things, she had a bad shed I know this much as I missed blue, it probably tore a scale and bled a little letting infection set in.

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konrad1982
Yearling

United Kingdom
235 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2012 :  12:06:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you can't blame yourself mate. It definitely didn't happen within day or two while on shed. It was probably building up under her old skin for much longer but it was just invisible. If her old skin was stuck into it it may explain bleeding. I'm not even sure if that's caused by a substrate you were using. Maybe it's just a bacteria. If that was the substrate it would probably happen to most of the snakes you've got. I hope she will recover quickly-keep us updated how it goes. Good luck.

Edited by - konrad1982 on 10/08/2012 12:08:49
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2012 :  12:16:57  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The substrate just made the problem worse, can't harbour bacteria in newspaper that's changed every few days :)

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konrad1982
Yearling

United Kingdom
235 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2012 :  12:43:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like you are saying, substrate could make things worse - I agree. But it is like with people - when you catch flue bacteria it doesn't matter if you sleep on the bed, sofa or on the bench - you have that bacteria and if your body is strong enough you will be fine, if not you will have a flue. But when you get a flue you can't just blame your bed. Bacteria could be anywhere in food, water, air, on your hands or substrate itself. All I'm trying to say is - even on newspapers something like this could have happened.
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2012 :  12:55:29  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Much less likely though, no spot cleaning and hoping it's all okay, instead you just do a fresh whole clean quickly. :)

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2012 :  20:12:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you know whats really weird Kelf, I came home today to check on Roger (who was in shed - again) and I removed the sphagnum and perfect shed from his hide and also took him out to admire him, I noticed then the very tip of his tail had a really small blood stain on it.

two of us in the same week with what looks like the same issue.

I have removed all substrate (critter krumble) dissinfected his rub and put nipple cream (its all i had) onto his tail - see how he gets on.

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  10:06:31  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Not good, this shedding lark is becoming scary!

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chrisc
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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  10:27:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it could just be from were the shed has come away from the vent an bled a little sure ive read about this happening

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badwool
Sub Adult

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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  12:57:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope so - will keep an eye on him.

Hows cleo looking kelf?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  13:15:10  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Same as always to be honest, just given her some more of her medicine :)

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badwool
Sub Adult

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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  13:24:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does it look to be clearing up?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/08/2012 :  18:25:46  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well we've been back to the vets today, looks like this new medicine (can't spell it) is clearing it up but very, very slowly. We're still waiting for the lab results to come back.

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reptilemadd
Sub Adult

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Posted - 24/08/2012 :  19:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah chrisc bleeding from the vent when shedding is apparently quite common although more so in corns, I only know this cause it happened to me at the beginning of the year and I paniced as you do lol only to be told as I've said that it is quite common.

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LittlestarRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/09/2012 :  20:00:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a very small amount of blood from one of my little females vent during shedding once. I cleaned and dried the area, the bleeding stopped almost immediately. She never suffered from any problems after and it's never happened again.

I'm really glad I use newspaper after reading this! I will have to think about the lining paper idea though as it would certainly look nicer!

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 09/09/2012 :  10:41:57  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Little update.

The medicine we gave her seems to be taking effect internally but externally it still looks pretty awful! Gave her another bath last night and as soon as she hit the water it turned red with blood, poor girl!

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/09/2012 :  13:18:25  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Update for you with pictures;

Cleo is getting a bit better, still leaking quite a bit of fluid each night but externally it's looking better.


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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2012 :  13:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
awww bless her, looks like she's healing nicely though :)

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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2012 :  05:59:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did you try taking her off the heatmat and heating her another way?

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 15/09/2012 :  10:03:43  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Don't have another way of heating her, Chris.

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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
3326 Posts

Posted - 16/09/2012 :  10:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
could maybe put some thin bits of wood between the RUB and heatmat just to create a little bit of an air gap

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